[DCRB-L] RE: Test BSC website and DCRB

Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:14:45 -0800

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Hi Deborah: 
 
I have not responded in a while, being no longer on the Committee. 
 
However, just several notes. 
 
1) I have same scrolling problem on your new Home Page mentioned by Jane
and Juliet, on monitor set at 1024 x 768 pixels.&nbsp; Perhaps you need
to reset the margins of your page (smaller).&nbsp; 
 
2) I do much like the page, however.&nbsp; Home pages tend to be much too
&quot;busy&quot; and distracting, while this one as you propose is very
uncluttered, and easy on the eyes.. 
 
3) I have been following the DCRB discussion.&nbsp; Though I am not a
stickler for the concept that a catalog record in a library database
should be&nbsp; a piece of descriptive bibliography, I do agree with the
general point that consistency between title and imprint transcription is
to be preferred.&nbsp; As &quot;Scotland&quot; points out, making them
consistent, including ''all information&quot; without abbreviations,
giving titles, dedications, addresses, full imprint name as on t.p. or
colophon, etc., is actually much simpler and more cost efficient.&nbsp;
Library assistants can very easily be instructed to do this kind of
transcription when preparing in-process records, and it supplies
information many rare books people want.&nbsp; The rare books cataloger
of course needs to review/revise when full cataloging is
done.&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 
As to imprint name, the Committee spent much time on an RI approved by
LC; but it can only be applied (new or revised headings) if we actually
know what is on title/colophon pages.&nbsp; This is precisely the same
concept as AACR2 applies to other kinds of headings == in order to
establish a name one needs to know how it actually appears in works
(usually title for most AACR2 purposes) == not the only criterion, but an
important one. 
 
As to collation, I should likewise hope that acquisitions persons were
trained in full collation; when a book is received, it ought to be
collated then and there rather than perhaps a year later when a cataloger
finds the item is &quot;different'&quot; from the dealer's
description!&nbsp; The collation at same time can be recorded in the
in-process record.&nbsp; 
 
Finally, for those of us who have to catalog by several rules, in varying
formats, it is much easier to&nbsp; &quot;transcribe as is&quot; rather
than trying to remember what we can/must omit or abbreviate in what MARC
field because we happen to be following DCRB, or APPM, or Visual
Materials rules, or (heaven forbid) AACR2 rules for modern books. Not all
special collections/rare books catalogers deal exclusively or primarily
with early printed books! 
 
And I would point out: having observed many records for specialized
material (e.g., audio/visual&nbsp; materials, manuscript cataloging
modern or medieval) rare books catalogers seem to be &quot;more sinned
against than sinning&quot; when it comes to &quot;detailed&quot;
cataloging with &quot;superfluous&quot; information.&nbsp; What is
&quot;superfluous&quot; tends to mean &quot;what is not needed for 'my
primary' material.&quot;&nbsp; 
 
4) Minutes from Atlanta look ok to me. 
 
Thanks, 
 
Patrick 
 
At 12:35 PM 11/22/2002 -0500, you wrote: 
<blockquote type=cite cite>Hmmm. I
have a 17&quot; monitor set at 1024 x 768 pixels, and it fits just fine
without scrolling. Jane, can you send me a screenshot? --DJL 
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<dd>From: Juliet McLaren
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<dd>Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:27 PM
<dd>To: Jane Gillis; Deborah J. Leslie; slsf@udel.edu;
russell.363@osu.edu; btabb@oregon.uoregon.edu; edwin.schroeder@yale.edu;
ESmith@huntington.org; ElizRob@alum.emory.edu; passga@slu.edu; Jain
Fletcher (E-mail); larrabee@law.berkeley.edu; Jennifer Roper (E-mail);
joeas@goshen.edu; juliet@ucrac1.ucr.edu; prussell@library.berkeley.edu;
robert_maxwell@byu.edu; Deborah J. Leslie
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<dd>I agree with Jane, I just hate the new logo though. :-( It looks so
cold and tech. 
<dd>- Juliet 
<dd>At 08:27 AM 11/22/02 -0500, Jane Gillis wrote: 
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<dd>The page looks wonderful. The immediate change that comes to mind is
to try to get it to fit, without scrolling, on one screen. See the Yale
Library home page:

<dd>&lt;<a href="http://www.library.yale.edu/" eudora="autourl">http://www.library.yale.edu/</a>&gt;<a href="http://www.library.yale.edu/" eudora="autourl">http://www.library.yale.edu/</a>
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<dd>I know that screen sizes and resolutions are different, but if it could fit on a 17&quot; monitor, at 1024 x 768 pixels, it would be helpful. The draft Yale Library home page also had scrolling.

<dd>Jane <br>
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<dd>At 07:27 PM 11/21/2002 Thursday-0500, Deborah J. Leslie wrote: 
 

<dd>I've been working on a redesign of the BSC webpage, which incorporates the new RBMS logo as well as more decentralization of the pages. Let me know what you think. The other pages will eventually have the same look and feel of the new BSC home page. 
<dd>&lt;<a href="http://www.folger.edu/bsc/indextest.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.folger.edu/bsc/indextest.html</a>&gt;<a href="http://www.folger.edu/bsc/indextest.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.folger.edu/bsc/indextest.html</a>

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<dd>Head of Cataloging 
<dd>Folger Shakespeare Library 
<dd>201 East Capitol St., S.E. 
<dd>Washington, D.C. 20003 
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