[DCRM-L] Uncertain printing technique (Erin Blake)

L'Écuyer-Coelho, Marie-Chantal MC.Coelho at banq.qc.ca
Thu May 22 14:05:14 MDT 2025


Hi all!

Many thanks for your thoughts and recommendations : as always, you have been a great help to me.
In the end, I think I'll go with a very general 300 $b ("engraving") and then write a note to indicate that it's probably a "crayon manner".

Have a great evening everyone :)

All the best,

Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho
Bibliothécaire responsable du traitement documentaire des collections iconographiques et de l'ISNI
Direction des métadonnées et de la normalisation bibliographiques
Direction générale de la Bibliothèque nationale
Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec

Bibliothèque nationale (site Rosemont)
2275, rue Holt
Montréal (Québec) H2G 3H1
Téléphone : (514) 873-1101, poste 3730
mc.coelho at banq.qc.ca

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Hi Marie-Chantal!

It actually is our policy at the Folger to include technique in the MARC 300 when doing full DCRM(G) cataloging. I think Deborah thought you meant rare book cataloging.

When there's uncertainty about the specific technique of a print, we've traditionally gone with the lowest common denominator, so "relief" if you're not sure which relief technique was used.

That being said, I think you have a good point about how museum labels handle uncertainty in technique. I think it would be worth looking to Cataloging Cultural Objects (CCO) 3.2.2.2.6, which allows use of "probably" or, if the possibilities are very limited, "or" -- in fact, we already have this in some of our legacy cataloging, e.g. "1 drawing : watercolor or gouache."

Putting "probably" or "or" in the 300$b rather than omitting it or going with something more general helps users know what the picture isn't. In the "watercolor or gouache" example, users get a general idea of what kind of drawing it is, and a certaintainty about what kind of drawing it isn't (e.g., not pencil, not pen-and-ink).

Best,

Erin

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It isn't our local policy to add printing technique to the 300, but if it were, I'd only add it if I were sure


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Hi all!



I was wondering whether it would be considered erroneous to use a question mark in the MARC 300 field to indicate uncertainty about the printing technique of an art print. I've consulted both DCRM(G) and RDA, but unfortunately, I haven't found any instruction that explicitly allows this. However, there are cases where there is genuine doubt about the printing technique, and it would be convenient if there was a way to reflect that uncertainty in the description (like I have seen on museum labels).



I would be most interested in reading your thoughts on the matter.



Many thanks for your input :)



Marie-Chantal



Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho

Biblioth?caire responsable du traitement documentaire des collections iconographiques et de l'ISNI

Direction des m?tadonn?es et de la normalisation bibliographiques

Direction g?n?rale de la Biblioth?que nationale

Biblioth?que et Archives nationales du Qu?bec



Biblioth?que nationale (site Rosemont)

2275, rue Holt

Montr?al (Qu?bec) H2G 3H1

T?l?phone : (514) 873-1101, poste 3730

mc.coelho at banq.qc.ca<mailto:mc.coelho at banq.qc.ca>



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